Tyre Wear On Outer Edges

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swifty

Discussion Starter · Aug 10, 2006

I have had the toureg for twelve months now from new and at about 6000 miles i noticed tyre wear on all four tyres on the outer edges, i took it back to the dealer who checked out the transfer box and wheel alignment on a laser m/c and all came back ok , however some 2000 miles later i noticed that the tyres were nearly bald on the outer edges so i took it back again only to be told that its was with in spec of vw specifications, i then phoned vw customer service and after a number of phone calls i have got now where with them ,they are telling me that they do not have a tyre wear issue with the toureg how ever after looking at this site they do have a issue with tyre wear.Has anybody had any good results from vw regards this problem, also is it not about time that the motoring press put some pressure on vw about the tyre wear problem. :bashwall:

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Foghorn

· #2 · Aug 10, 2006

What about the inside edges are they worn? Sounds unusual and I think it is a tyre pressure issue if the geometry is set up correctly - ask to see the computer print out to see if they are within tolerance

Increasing the psi by a few pound will cause the centre tread profile to sit slightly raised and it would be interesting to see if this resolves the problem. In which case have VW given the wrong advice in relation to tyre pressures?

Tyre wear varies across Treg ownership - the dealer told me to expect 11k.

swifty

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 10, 2006

Foghorn said:
What about the inside edges are they worn? Sounds unusual and I think it is a tyre pressure issue if the geometry is set up correctly - ask to see the computer print out to see if they are within tolerance

Increasing the psi by a few pound will cause the centre tread profile to sit slightly raised and it would be interesting to see if this resolves the problem. In which case have VW given the wrong advice in relation to tyre pressures?

Tyre wear varies across Treg ownership - the dealer told me to expect 11k.

The tyre wear across the tread was as follows which was done by the dealer o/s/f outer 0mm o/s/f midd 3mm o/s/f inner 2mm. n/s/f outer 0mm n/s/f midd 2mm n/s/f inner2mm. n/s/r outer1.6mm n/s/r midd 2mm n/s/r 4mm. o/s/r outer 2mm o/s/r midd 3mm o/s/r inner 4mm no tyre pressures given .

Kaine

· #4 · Aug 10, 2006

swifty said:
they are telling me that they do not have a tyre wear issue with the toureg

what a load of bollocks - dont believe a word of it - or in fact, ask them for that statement in writing

Many Touaregs have suffered from tyre wear due to either the well documented stepper issues or due to bad wheel alignment during manufacture.

VW have replaced many sets of tyres FOC due to this issue including mine (however I paid 50% of the cost as I'd done 10k at this time)

Search this forum - you will learn of many cases for tyre wear

CovRob

· #5 · Aug 10, 2006

swifty said:
I have had the toureg for twelve months now from new and at about 6000 miles i noticed tyre wear on all four tyres on the outer edges, i took it back to the dealer who checked out the transfer box and wheel alignment on a laser m/c and all came back ok , however some 2000 miles later i noticed that the tyres were nearly bald on the outer edges so i took it back again only to be told that its was with in spec of vw specifications, i then phoned vw customer service and after a number of phone calls i have got now where with them ,they are telling me that they do not have a tyre wear issue with the toureg how ever after looking at this site they do have a issue with tyre wear.Has anybody had any good results from vw regards this problem, also is it not about time that the motoring press put some pressure on vw about the tyre wear problem. :bashwall:

This link takes you to my recent experience regarding tyre wear...hope it helps your approach to the dealer.

Rob

terry24

· #6 · Aug 12, 2006

I have had it all ,after a long battel I eventualy had a new transfer box fitted I have about 5000 miles since it was changed and the tyres seem to be fairley even.
VW customer Don,t Care are a bunch of habitual tellers of un-trooths you only have to take a look at this forum.
The Moutering Press are not intrested I contacted them all including Watch Dog.
Good Luck
PS. (I off to Buy some thing Japanese)

Bod

· #7 · Aug 12, 2006

I think it is about time Touareg owners woke up to the fact that 11K on a set of tyres is totaly unsatisfactory

I have run 4x4s for a number of years and have never have any vehicle which eats tyres like the Touareg

I too was fobbed of with VW customer support saying there was no tyre wear issue, so in my anger I vowed I would never purchase another VW Car , what more can you Do?

Just had My Range Rover in for 24K service Original tyres 50% warn, Landrover do know how to make permanent 4WD work.

If VW dont accept there is a problem they never will get the system working right, maybe they wont need too because by then all there customers will have deserted them.

If VW read this Forum mine was NL54 DOH and I am sticking to my Word!!!! More than you lot will ever do :tease:

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pilgrim

· #8 · Aug 13, 2006

Well, its all very well blasting off , I think if you read some of the posts particularly the pinned topic on transmission problems etc you will find much as been written and done and guide as how you might handle this. In my own case I have found arguing rationally and getting a decent dealer, rather than some of the incompetent dealers that are around, the problems can be solved. Mine has been running, so far, very well and the tyres since an alignment all OK The vehicle is now two and half years old and encountered most of the problems. The only way to convince people is get the facts, analyse, from the guys here. However at times you get less than the full story. :closedeyes:

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swifty

Discussion Starter · #9 · Aug 13, 2006

pilgrim said:
Well, its all very well blasting off , I think if you read some of the posts particularly the pinned topic on transmission problems etc you will find much as been written and done and guide as how you might handle this. In my own case I have found arguing rationally and getting a decent dealer, rather than some of the incompetent dealers that are around, the problems can be solved. Mine has been running, so far, very well and the tyres since an alignment all OK The vehicle is now two and half years old and encountered most of the problems. The only way to convince people is get the facts, analyse, from the guys here. However at times you get less than the full story. :closedeyes:

You mention that after the wheel alignment the tyres have even wear ,how many miles since this was done?

dcirulis

· #10 · Aug 15, 2006

swifty said:
I have had the toureg for twelve months now from new and at about 6000 miles i noticed tyre wear on all four tyres on the outer edges, i took it back to the dealer who checked out the transfer box and wheel alignment on a laser m/c and all came back ok , however some 2000 miles later i noticed that the tyres were nearly bald on the outer edges so i took it back again only to be told that its was with in spec of vw specifications, i then phoned vw customer service and after a number of phone calls i have got now where with them ,they are telling me that they do not have a tyre wear issue with the toureg how ever after looking at this site they do have a issue with tyre wear.Has anybody had any good results from vw regards this problem, also is it not about time that the motoring press put some pressure on vw about the tyre wear problem. :bashwall:

luckily i got ALL my money back for my touareg that was dogged with problems including tyre wear (after only a couple of hundred miles). They are spinning you a line The slovaks that made your car yet again got the string line wrong when setting up the geometry (must be using string cos if they used proper equipment it would be right!) You are not alone with this problem Go for them All guns blazing Good Luck!!!

chrisbin

· #11 · Aug 15, 2006

Just as a slight aside....I only got 15k mls out of a set of tyres on my Beemer, new 3 series.......fronts were badly worn on shoulders and rears were simply "shot"!!

To add insult to injury they are runflats so, after shopping around, then finding some available, it cost ?800 to change!!! :bashwall:

Kaine

· #12 · Aug 15, 2006

useful contact for wheel alignment (if your in the area of Nottingham that is)

taken from rrsport forums

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Had mine back today - and as luck would have it the dealership could not do the 4 wheel alignment themselves so they farmed it out to a place in Nottingham called Nottingham Car 4 wheel Alignment Service. (Unit 7, Little Tennis St, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire NG2 4EL
Tel: 0115 959 9144 )

Apparently they do a much better job AND it only costs ?48, as opposed to the ?240 Stratstones were trying to get me to pay!

Apparently mine was out by 4 degrees at the back and 2 degrees at the front...no wonder it was drifting left, it was all trying to go in different directions!

seems a good price to have an independant check carried out

Kaine

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montys4x4

· #13 · Aug 15, 2006

Many moons ago we posted that the wife's Treg was showing front outer edge wear at less than 4K plus the steering seemed too light when turning left and right after digesting posts on the subject we took it into Cooks in Peterborough they checked alignment (which was out) and adjusted, the tyre wear on the shoulders at that point was minimal. I did suggest in a follow up to the post it might be worth owners asking for an alignment check from new. Treg now at 13K all tyres have worn evenly but being Turanzas boy have they worn and I expect to have to put new ones on before winter.

Anyway Tregs sister our Cayenne is now at 19K and the Continentals sport contact 4x4s are approaching the TWI but front tyres shoulders are just legal, I found I have gained extra life out of the fronts by pumping up from recomended 38 to 42psi to match the rears it has slowed the outer shoulders on the front wearing further. Will now try the same matching pressures when I put a new set on in the coming weeks.

Paul

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sjt

· #14 · Aug 20, 2006

montys4x4 said:
Many moons ago we posted that the wife's Treg was showing front outer edge wear at less than 4K

I'm seeing the same on mine............ particularly on the front pair. I knew it would take a while for my driving style to change having moved on from my previous brace of cars (Golf GTI and the Honda S2000) to the Treg, and that would impact on the tyre wear, but even so, the front outer rims are looking a little too scrubbed for my liking even after 3K.

I'm going to keep a close eye on tyre pressures and keep the right foot a little calmer over the next few K miles, and if there's no improvement then it'll be time for a chat with my friendly dealer before it gets any worse. :think:

montys4x4 said:
Anyway Tregs sister our Cayenne is now at 19K and the Continentals sport contact 4x4s are approaching the TWI but front tyres shoulders are just legal, I found I have gained extra life out of the fronts by pumping up from recomended 38 to 42psi to match the rears it has slowed the outer shoulders on the front wearing further. Will now try the same matching pressures when I put a new set on in the coming weeks.

Paul

Paul, thanks for the comparison - I've got Conti SportContacts on the Treg, so will be interesting to see how they last in comparison to your Cayenne's history.

I know it's a totally different type of car, but interestingly the Golf GTI had the Conti SportContacts and the front pair lasted 'til 18K.

Someone may well have to explain the tyre types (sizes vs weight of car, compounds, speed ratings etc etc) in more detail in case this comparison is simply not valid though :help:

SJ

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BJS

· #15 · Aug 20, 2006

= a simple comparison of weight of Golf GTI and Treg may answer many of your questions?

sjt

· #16 · Aug 20, 2006

BJS said:
= a simple comparison of weight of Golf GTI and Treg may answer many of your questions?

Sure, I appreciate the weight issue - surely the Conti SportContact 4x4 specific tyres would take this into consideration in comparison to the non-4x4 Conti SportContacts in a 200bhp front wheel drive car?

Or, forgive my naivety, am I completely missing the point? Are they completely different tyres, they just have the same branding???

SJ

sjt

· #17 · Aug 20, 2006

sjt said:
Sure, I appreciate the weight issue - surely the Conti SportContact 4x4 specific tyres would take this into consideration in comparison to the non-4x4 Conti SportContacts in a 200bhp front wheel drive car?

Or, forgive my naivety, am I completely missing the point? Are they completely different tyres, they just have the same branding???

SJ

Just been reading this: http://www.mytouaregforum.com/forums/index...?showtopic=2887

Kinda answers alot of questions

SJ

BJS

· #18 · Aug 22, 2006

dare I mention I've got over 11k on my original tyres at this point, and minimal wear?

Kaine

· #19 · Aug 22, 2006

BJS said:
dare I mention I've got over 11k on my original tyres at this point, and minimal wear?

you can say anything you wish - its an open forum - sharing this info is what its all about

its good to know the majority of Touaregs dont have this wear problem

Scottie

· #20 · Aug 22, 2006

SJT

I wouldn't wait and see. I would take my Treg back into the dealer and ask for a Laser Alignment to be done if it is showing signs of wear after only 3k best to address the issue now.

I very much doubt it is down to your style of driving.

and if the dealer is anything like ours was demand a new set of tyres then tell him you will accept Hankooks the dealer will be double happy because they think great this guy is going for tyres at half the cost little do they know you are getting tyres more suited to the Touareg.

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