Lpg Conversion
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QUOTE(sec.0205 @ Nov 16 2005, 10:01 PM)Successful LPG conversion ? If so which make and how big is your tank?
I researched this for my 3.2 V6 but could not find anyone who would either carry it out or had had it done.
If you find anything please let me know.
Smudger
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I researched this for my 3.2 V6 but could not find anyone who would either carry it out or had had it done.
If you find anything please let me know.
Smudger
QUOTE(sec.0205 @ Nov 16 2005, 10:01 PM)Successful LPG conversion ? If so which make and how big is your tank?
i'm planning to have my V8 converted in a few weeks, there are two companies at the moment i'm talking to, one is http://www.greenfuel.org.uk and the other http://www.prinslpgnetwork.com both seem pretty keen, both quoting around £2.5k. One has told me the tank they'll fit will be 65-77 litres.
My dad drives an Explorer and has just converted it, swears by it. 4.0 engine, less than £20 to fill it up.
the y guy at Greenfuels is called Luke, very helpful, worth a call, they also provide a quote via there website.
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i'm planning to have my V8 converted in a few weeks, there are two companies at the moment i'm talking to, one is http://www.greenfuel.org.uk and the other http://www.prinslpgnetwork.com both seem pretty keen, both quoting around £2.5k. One has told me the tank they'll fit will be 65-77 litres.
My dad drives an Explorer and has just converted it, swears by it. 4.0 engine, less than £20 to fill it up.
the y guy at Greenfuels is called Luke, very helpful, worth a call, they also provide a quote via there website.
Danny,
Excellent I will look in to that.
How old is your vehicle?
Have you checked whether it effects your VW warranty?
Secondly what mpg do you expect to achieve from lpg?
Other things to consider where: are they putting that fuel tank, wear on engine, performance etc.
Thanks
Smudg
Excellent I will look in to that.
How old is your vehicle?
Have you checked whether it effects your VW warranty?
Secondly what mpg do you expect to achieve from lpg?
Other things to consider where: are they putting that fuel tank, wear on engine, performance etc.
Thanks
Smudg
QUOTE(smudger @ Nov 17 2005, 03:13 PM)Danny,
Excellent I will look in to that.
How old is your vehicle?
Have you checked whether it effects your VW warranty?
Secondly what mpg do you expect to achieve from lpg?
Other things to consider where: are they putting that fuel tank, wear on engine, performance etc.
Thanks
Smudg
An update on the LPG situation;
I've spoken with the two places i mentioned before but now upon closer inspection it turns out that everyone is happy to convert the V8 but as the Treg only has a space saver the fuel tank on offer is only very small or mounted in the actual boot as a cylinder, not idea really.
I have a meeting with Gas Tech near Cambridge Monday to discuss in more detail so will keep you posted.
After looking at the spare wheel compartment where the wheel, tools and compresor are i think the perfect solution would be to have a custom tank made, could be a good plan if i can speak to the tank makers or if there's enough interest from touareg drivers, i'm sure there are other interested owers out and there and possibly the Cayenne has the same problem, now this is getting cheaper could be some more possible customers.
sorry its better news, if anyone finds anything out please let me know.
Cheers for now
Dan
Excellent I will look in to that.
How old is your vehicle?
Have you checked whether it effects your VW warranty?
Secondly what mpg do you expect to achieve from lpg?
Other things to consider where: are they putting that fuel tank, wear on engine, performance etc.
Thanks
Smudg
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An update on the LPG situation;
I've spoken with the two places i mentioned before but now upon closer inspection it turns out that everyone is happy to convert the V8 but as the Treg only has a space saver the fuel tank on offer is only very small or mounted in the actual boot as a cylinder, not idea really.
I have a meeting with Gas Tech near Cambridge Monday to discuss in more detail so will keep you posted.
After looking at the spare wheel compartment where the wheel, tools and compresor are i think the perfect solution would be to have a custom tank made, could be a good plan if i can speak to the tank makers or if there's enough interest from touareg drivers, i'm sure there are other interested owers out and there and possibly the Cayenne has the same problem, now this is getting cheaper could be some more possible customers.
sorry its better news, if anyone finds anything out please let me know.
Cheers for now
Dan
I'm told now by Gas Tech in cambridge that they will have a tank to fit the space, the problem being that it may just be a small one with limited range. The tanks are all round donut shaped but he's going to look at the car this week and measure, hopefully they'll be able to provide a tank with the centre space filled in to provide some more capacity (the valves etc which usually are in the centre could come out the side where the tools and pump are located in the boot area).
More news will follow as i have it
Cheers Dan
More news will follow as i have it
Cheers Dan
QUOTE(smudger @ Nov 21 2005, 04:58 PM)Good.
Going back to the warranty issue.
If your vehicle is still under warranty have you spoken to VW with regards to how their warranty is affected if converted?
me again.
have spoken to VW and they will have nothing to do with any work needed that's caused by the installation, as you would guess i suppose, but it doesn't void the warranty, just means that you need to make sure the place you've used for the conversion is prepared to pay for any work needed that's a result of the work they carried out, back up being that the VW dealship will confirm this is the case, touchy issue i know and something i'm most concerned about.
On a good note the place i've been speaking to recently say they work on New Audis straight from the factory, have worked on lots of big V8 audi's and have a senior VW technicial working for them which gives me some more confidence.
will let you know how the meeting later this week goes if i get time to go and see them.
Cheers
Dan
Going back to the warranty issue.
If your vehicle is still under warranty have you spoken to VW with regards to how their warranty is affected if converted?
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me again.
have spoken to VW and they will have nothing to do with any work needed that's caused by the installation, as you would guess i suppose, but it doesn't void the warranty, just means that you need to make sure the place you've used for the conversion is prepared to pay for any work needed that's a result of the work they carried out, back up being that the VW dealship will confirm this is the case, touchy issue i know and something i'm most concerned about.
On a good note the place i've been speaking to recently say they work on New Audis straight from the factory, have worked on lots of big V8 audi's and have a senior VW technicial working for them which gives me some more confidence.
will let you know how the meeting later this week goes if i get time to go and see them.
Cheers
Dan
QUOTE(smudger @ Nov 21 2005, 10:03 PM)Ok
Keep me informed I am interested to hear how you go.
Been thinking about it converting to LPG myself.
Got your message regards roof bars and sent one back..
No probs anyhow.
Another update on the LPG conversion:
Greenfuels came back to me with the following reply to question about small tanks, have asked for pictures and will forward if i get some.
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email from Luke at Greenfuels
Danny,
They are right to have reservations about the tank size as the spare wheel well is very small. You can only fit a 35 litre tank in. We have come up with a great idea that allows you to fit a 55l tank. We have made a false boot floor than can fit over the larger tank. If you can imagine a 35l tank fits flush, a 55l is going to stick up by a couple of inches so we have made a false boot floor that fits over the top and makes it flush again. We would need an extra £80 for the raised boot floor but it does mean you can get a decent sizes tank in and wont have to fill up every day!
We have been fitting these to Touareg for quite a while now and have had great success. The boot looks just like it did before and you still don't know there is a tank hidden underneath!
Let me know what you think.
Regards,
Luke
Keep me informed I am interested to hear how you go.
Been thinking about it converting to LPG myself.
Got your message regards roof bars and sent one back..
No probs anyhow.
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Another update on the LPG conversion:
Greenfuels came back to me with the following reply to question about small tanks, have asked for pictures and will forward if i get some.
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email from Luke at Greenfuels
Danny,
They are right to have reservations about the tank size as the spare wheel well is very small. You can only fit a 35 litre tank in. We have come up with a great idea that allows you to fit a 55l tank. We have made a false boot floor than can fit over the larger tank. If you can imagine a 35l tank fits flush, a 55l is going to stick up by a couple of inches so we have made a false boot floor that fits over the top and makes it flush again. We would need an extra £80 for the raised boot floor but it does mean you can get a decent sizes tank in and wont have to fill up every day!
We have been fitting these to Touareg for quite a while now and have had great success. The boot looks just like it did before and you still don't know there is a tank hidden underneath!
Let me know what you think.
Regards,
Luke
Guys,
Goes to show it can be done and look at the savings possible if you follow his thread down a bit.
Half the cost.
Still a bit worried about the warranty but worth persuing I think.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1978339
Goes to show it can be done and look at the savings possible if you follow his thread down a bit.
Half the cost.
Still a bit worried about the warranty but worth persuing I think.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1978339
Found this site, gives lots of good advice, route planning using LPG stations and the following statement caught my eye;
"We are the only company to guarantee* that, in the unlikely event that you are unhappy with your LPG conversion, we will restore your car to its original condition and give you your money back, plus a £250 cash-back inconvenience payment. "
worth a look - i'm just waiting for them to come back to me with a quote so will keep you posted.
www.fuelture.com
Cheers
Danny
"We are the only company to guarantee* that, in the unlikely event that you are unhappy with your LPG conversion, we will restore your car to its original condition and give you your money back, plus a £250 cash-back inconvenience payment. "
worth a look - i'm just waiting for them to come back to me with a quote so will keep you posted.
www.fuelture.com
Cheers
Danny
uuummmmmmm.
Quite a good site.
unfortunately £250 doesn't go too far when your engines knacked.
And that's what's putting me off doing it - the worry of something going amiss and both the conversion company and VW not wanting to know.
What cost do you put on that?
Quite a good site.
unfortunately £250 doesn't go too far when your engines knacked.
And that's what's putting me off doing it - the worry of something going amiss and both the conversion company and VW not wanting to know.
What cost do you put on that?
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My Dad had his Octavia converted to LPG over at a place in Greetland (AFV Sunside) but be warned - he's had nothing but trouble with it.
It's nothing to do with the Company who fitted it - just seems to be an immature technology to retrofit to a car.
Explanations vary from 'no one car is the same so the results are unpredictable' to 'the EMS wasn't remapped correctly and they flashed it with the data for a manual rather than auto engine'.
All I know is that he's spent a couple or three grand trying to get it sorted, so he's probably just about broken even.
VW/Audi don't like LPG conversions - I checked it out and they advised it was a 'warrenty invalidation issue'
It's nothing to do with the Company who fitted it - just seems to be an immature technology to retrofit to a car.
Explanations vary from 'no one car is the same so the results are unpredictable' to 'the EMS wasn't remapped correctly and they flashed it with the data for a manual rather than auto engine'.
All I know is that he's spent a couple or three grand trying to get it sorted, so he's probably just about broken even.
VW/Audi don't like LPG conversions - I checked it out and they advised it was a 'warrenty invalidation issue'
My point exactly.
I know the savings are attarctive but the grief you could give yourself if something goes wrong doesn't bear thinking about.
Unless something radical changes with the attitude towards these conversions I will not be progressing with this idea.
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I know the savings are attarctive but the grief you could give yourself if something goes wrong doesn't bear thinking about.
Unless something radical changes with the attitude towards these conversions I will not be progressing with this idea.
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