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Hi all,

I wonder if anyone has successfully managed to get an upgraded fan installed by VW on older an Treg?

I have recently purchased a T4 which had the factory fitted swivel tow bar. After reading the advice on here and with some nifty camera work have confirmed that the fan is a 600W fan.

I didnt buy the car from a main dealer (incidentally it was originally owned by a main dealer and then the wife of the owner for 3.5 years) and its soon to be 5 years old. Anyone think theres scope to try and get the upgraded fan as i do intend to tow in the future.

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Hi all,

I wonder if anyone has successfully managed to get an upgraded fan installed by VW on older an Treg?

I have recently purchased a T4 which had the factory fitted swivel tow bar. After reading the advice on here and with some nifty camera work have confirmed that the fan is a 600W fan.

I didnt buy the car from a main dealer (incidentally it was originally owned by a main dealer and then the wife of the owner for 3.5 years) and its soon to be 5 years old. Anyone think theres scope to try and get the upgraded fan as i do intend to tow in the future.

TIA
It's certainly worth a try - start with your local dealer but escalate to VW Customer Services at the first opportunity - you can quote the fact that other customers have identified mis-builds and had the correct fan fitted under warranty.
 

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Worth a try but don't be concerned if you fail. Unless your caravan is extremely heavy you'll be fine on the standard fan.

Many, including me, tow on the standard fan without issue.
 

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Worth a try but you might have missed the boat.

T3 and T4 models have been successfully upgraded but it will depend on the support of your local VW dealer and the stance of VW Customer Care.

You will need the exact build date of your car and find the appropriate brochure and spec/price list to see what it says about the factory towbar/fan upgrade - that would support your case, but the car is now 5 years old and you were not the first owner.

I'd try negotiating with the supplying VW dealer who first registered the car and cite examples of owners of similar cars who have successfully got their fans upgraded by VW.

https://www.mytreg.com/index.php?/topic/17665-brochure-downloads/

https://www.mytreg.com/index.php?/topic/47593-historic-vw-brochures-online/
 

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I got my fan upgraded at no cost.
Car is 67 reg and still under warranty.
I emailed VW customer service first who confirmed that the car had the wrong fan fitted and told me to take to a VW dealer. I took the VW email to the dealer and after some persistence finally got it done.
 

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https://www.ebay.co....tm/184322809599

Does anyone have experience of the ebay 'oem' ones?
You need to be careful with these as its not just the motor that's different but the blades on the 850w are quite a bit wider than on the 600w fan. There was a separate thread about a month ago where someone found an 850w fan on fleabay but it looked from the blades like a 600w fan being sold as an 850w. The poster fired questions to the seller and, I believe, it all suddenly went quiet on him.
 

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https://www.ebay.co....tm/184322809599

Does anyone have experience of the ebay 'oem' ones?
I wouldn't touch them, it clearly states "Aftermarket part", so not OEM. From the photos there's no doubt in my mind that that's not the correct part.
 

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Does anybody know if upgrading the cooling fans are a requirement on the gen 3?
There's no mention of it in the brochure, even the deal fit removable towbar (part no. 760 092 150) listed in accessory section doesn't mention it.
I've had a dealer tell me it doesn't need upgrading and one telling me it does!
 

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What will you be towing and where will you be towing it?
 

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What will you be towing and where will you be towing it?
1500kg shed on wheels. Here and abroad, potentially, France, Spain etc..
 

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Does anybody know if upgrading the cooling fans are a requirement on the gen 3?
There's no mention of it in the brochure, even the deal fit removable towbar (part no. 760 092 150) listed in accessory section doesn't mention it.
I've had a dealer tell me it doesn't need upgrading and one telling me it does!
What year is your car, when did you buy it and from whom
- just read your post again and if it's a Gen 3, I seem to recall that there isn't any stipulation about this as a factory option and if it's a third party/dealer accessory fit, it's also not specifically mentioned


As a comparison, I ordered and paid for the swivelling factory towbar on my 2013 R-Line and got the upgraded 800w fan.

Many other owners with factory towbar have got a free upgrade from VW via a dealer, but recent reports seem to indicate that VW UK aware not offering this support any more.

If you didn't buy from a VW dealer (which should be your first port of call), then try to use the dealer that says you do need the upgrade and get them to seek a goodwill gesture from VW but I'd say your chances are slim
 

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I've asked someone with a Gen 3 with a factory fitted towbar if they will kndly take a photo of the coolant fan to see if there is wattage figure on it.
 

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Thanks Nooby

I've spoken to a VW service centre today and they gave me a price of (wait for it!) £3600, which they claim includes a cooling fan upgrade.
However I've spoken with a dealer who told me he'd checked with his service centre and they said no fan upgrade needed and they could fit one for £1500. Obviously if no fan were needed I could go to someone like Professional Retrofits and get one for less than a grand. I called Retrofits also this afternoon and they came back with the statement that many don't have the fan upgraded, they wouldn't do that work but I may wish to have one fit.

It's really a mixed message and I wonder if a lot of people are erring on the side of caution following the issues with the T3/4 not being fitted with the correct fans in the factory. Therefore by default are stating the gen 3 need one??

I was originally only looking for an example with a factory tow bar. Since that limits my options, I started looking at examples without and reto-fitting one.
There's a used approved available at the moment which isnt listed as having a towbar but from the pics clearly has an after market bar fit.
I spoke to a sales guy about it today and he's confirmed it has one and since there's no comment about it from the initial inspection, their tech guys must be happy with it. When pressed he admitted that if it did need a fan upgrade and hasn't has one, any fault that could be attributed to it not having the upgraded fan, would not be covered under the warranty. I've asked him to do a bit more digging. Will let you know what he says..
 

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Can you find out the wattage of the fan that is fitted to the car you are interested in?
 

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Can you find out the wattage of the fan that is fitted to the car you are interested in?
Not easily but I'll try.
I also tried to speak to the VW UK technical team today but couldn't get through to them. I'll try that route again tomorrow if I have time.
 

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Brian from Nottingham [previous owner of 2010 Altitude, 2012 SE, 2015 R-Line] has very kindly taken the trouble to shine a light - literally as it was attached to a mirrror - on the coolant fan wattage this morning.

He has just taken delivery of a new Generation 3 [T5 in our terms] 2020 R-Line with a factory fitted swivelling towbar and he has confirmed that the Bosch coolant fan is 850 watts and has an Audi badge.

I have a strong feeling that we are back in the 600 watt no factory towbar/850 watt factory towbar scenario once more.

Someone with a new T5 that has no towbar needs to do a Brian please and report back with findings!
 
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