[Rocketman]

Hi, I've just joined your forum & need some advice please, my 07 3.0 altitude has only covered 5800 miles & the front tyres are down to 2.6 mm, my dealer is mumbleing & shuffleing, VW customer care are mumbleing & shuffleing, the O.E. Pirrellis are obviously to soft a compound for the vehicle, I will need to replace the tyres very soon, can anyone advise a quality tyre that has proved good on mileage?
(apart from the tyre wear I rate the vehicle highly)

 

[CovRob]

Hi Rocketman & welcome.

There is a wealth of threads about alternative tyre brands from people who have been through the same experience as you. (When will VW learn? :evil: ). Obviously a search on "tyres" or "tyre wear" will bring most of them up.

The short answer to your question from my point of view is Hankook RH06: http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m26b0s218p6672 Many have used this tyre with good grip & very much extended mileage. Some others are recommended too, but I can't remember which ones off the top of my head at this time of the morning

 

[Tregger-Happy]

Yep, Pirelli's are useless on the Treg.

I had the same issue. After 11K I reporteed that there was excessive wear and I only had about another 2k of wear left. VW offered to pay half the cost of a set of tyres (of my choice) and threw in a four wheel allignment for good measure.
I asked them to fit the Hankook Ventus RH06 which were priced at about ?100 per tyre fitted (I only paid half price - ?200 for the set).
I have now done 20K on the Hankooks and I've just checked that there is 6mm of tread depth left.
It's worth mentioning this site to the Dealer and Lux support to strengthen your claim with VW.....They do take us seriously.

 

[Geraout]

HANKOOK RH06 tyres come highly recommended, but the following the link to Camskill above, I can't find a 17" 235/65 version anywhere on the website. Does anyone know of an alternative supplier for the 17" tyres?

Thanks/

 

[NoobyT]

Try http://www.event-tyres.co.uk

They come to your home or office in a large Mercedes van fully equipped and do good prices with a good service.

Give them a call.

I have no connection with them other than as a customer.

I'm just ordering a set of General Grabber UHPs. Here's their quote:

235/65R17 108V GENERAL GRABBER UHP 4 x Tyres = ?365.03

235/65R17 108T PIRELLI SCORPION ATR XL N0 4 x Tyres = ?444.41

255/60R17 106V GENERAL GRABBER UHP 4 x Tyres = ?403.03

255/60R17 106H PIRELLI SCORPION STR 4 x Tyres = ?436.05

255/60R17 106V PIRELLI SCORPION ZERO 4 x Tyres = ?464.17

All prices incude new valve, balancing, fitting, old tyre disposal and VAT. No extras.

 

[Geraout]

The very helpful Brian at camskill tyres has found out from Hankook that the RH06 is notmade in 17". The 17" tyre is Hankook RA23. Does anybody have any feedback on the RA23?

Thanks.

 

[NoobyT]

Hankook RA23

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?d ... htweiter=1

This may be a summer tyre rather than a year round.

 

[NoobyT]

You can get the RH06 in 255/60/17 which I understand is a VW accepted alternative fit for the 17 inch rims, but again it is a summer tyre and that's why I'm going for the Grabber UHPs.

Have a look here:

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?s ... eedubgrade

 

[Rocketman]

Wow! fast pleasant helpfull advice (more than I'm getting from VW customer service!) they are "considering the situation" at the moment (good job it was nothing too technical) so I'll wait a few more days & see what they come up with..............my tyre size is 275/45/ZR/19 any ideas on a good mileage tyre?............many thanks for the advice/info so far..............

 

[Phil_Armitage]

Hi Rocketman,

I've just had 4 VREDESTEIN ULTRAC SUV SESSANTA fitted. Here is the link although i had a local company source them and fit. http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php? ... s256p12463 My first impressions are that they are way better than the p zeros that were on. The ride is smoother and quieter and they feel more stable in the corners plus they look good which is a bonus 8)

Cheers

Phil

 

[NoobyT]

Event Mobile Tyres - 08702 407 787
Mobile Tyre Fitting Service - We Come To You

All prices are Fully Inclusive of Tyre, Valve, Balance, Disposal,
VAT and Mobile Tyre Fitting at Your Home or Work Address - NO HIDDEN EXTRAS
275/45R19 108Y TOYO PROXES ST 4 4 tyres Fully Fitted ?553.28
275/45R19 108V GENERAL GRABBER UHP 4 tyres Fully Fitted ?562.40
275/45R19 108V CONTINENTAL 4X4 CONTACT XL N0 4 tyres ?713.91 Fully Fitted
275/45R19 108Y CONTINENTAL 4X4 CONTACT N0 4 tyres ?736.10 Fully Fitted
275/45R19 108Y MICHELIN LATITUDE TOUR HP XL N0 4 tyres ?798.76 Fully Fitted
275/45R19 108Y PIRELLI PZERO ROSSO XL N1 4 tyres ?804.12 Fully Fitted
275/45R19 108Y MICHELIN 4X4 DIAMARIS XL N0 4 tyres ?806.02 Fully Fitted
275/45R19 108Y PIRELLI PZERO ROSSO N0 4 tyres ?825.17 Fully Fitted

 

[NoobyT]

And read this thread too - some 19 users

has-anyone-used-toyo-or-vredestein-19%22-tyres--t5678.html-sid=3e6f9976c3adf44f1b8a1d1c95e9523f

 

[Nimrod]

My tyres ,Pirelli rossos,are noticeably worn at 10,000 miles so as Jet tyres at Canvey island is only an easy 40 min drive away I drove there today to get an opinion.
Jet Tyres is a unit on an industrial estate and was very busy.
The chap IC reckoned I had about 4000 miles left before I touched the tread wear indicators on the front.
The twi's are set at 2mm and the legal limit is 1.6mm.
They recommend Hankook Ventus and told me to ring a couple of weeks before ready.If they did happen to be out of stock they could get them in within that time.They said not worth swapping tyres front to back with the small amount of tread left.
Very helpful,even though very busy.

 

[AlexP]

...I'm just ordering a set of General Grabber UHPs...

Mate, do be so kind as to let us know how you get on with these. I've read good things about them.

My tyres will need replacing soon and I'm on the lookout for an all-season tyre with the emphasis on grip on damp and muddy roads. Cheers.

 

[Nimrod]

The US NHTSA treadwear ratings( I assume the UK compounds are the same) are

Pirelli P Zero Rosso 300
General Grabber UHP 360
Hankook Ventus RH06 420

So Hankook should last longer but I've read reviews that say that the Grabber is exceptionally quiet.
It's a dilemma!

 

[NoobyT]

Thanks for the info on tread wear. If the faster wearing tyres are cheaper, then one can make a choice that takes that into consideration.

Does anyone know what the likely difference is between the 360 and 420 rating in terms of mileage?

Cheers!

 

[Guest]

Not exactly but.........

treadwear ratings go from 100 to 600, fast wearing to slow wearing, so the difference between 360 and 420 is quite small.

Incidentally, I notice that the current Continental Cross Contact UHP has treadwear of 420 - its predecessor tyre, the 4X4 ContiSport was 280. May be as a result of poor wear criticism.

Cheers, Andy

 

[Nimrod]

On the US treadwear scale 100 is the control tyre.
Therefor a tyre with a rating of 200 should last twice as long as the control tyre.
They tested over 2400 different makes and types of tyre,
15% were below 200
25% were 201-300
32% were 301-400
20% were 401-500
6% were 501-600
2% were 600+

So Hankooks at 420 are well up there on the durability scale.

 

[AlexP]

Is it fair to say there's a trade off between grip and tyre wear - ie a hard-wearing tyre will afford less grip? How do the Hankook's that everyone raves about manage in the Autumn/Winter cold, damp conditions?

(My car only does about 5k miles per year so wear rate is not really an issue. The safety aspect is more important to me - having a tyre with a softer compound that provides more grip would be preferential)

 

[NoobyT]

Quite apart from the fact the Grabber UHP is rated as a year round tyre, I was convinced when I saw them on a [Proper - Mark 1] Range Rover that goes to Moscow every month via St Petersburg! The driver goes regardless of weather and has been very happy with comfort, grip and wear.