[darrenswift]

Hi darrenswift, I do have the latest firmware and maps but probably this is not required (although it is good to have the latest software).
If you do have a SIM card slot in your new car you may want to see if the internet works by popping in your sim card as the mod described here just changes the source of the data (or at least this is my understanding).
I hope this helps.

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Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll certainly be trying out the sim card option first, but being an iPhone user, I'd prefer to still have use of it over BT with the ridiculous amount of data EE provide each month catering for Google Maps etc.
I'll be contacting the provider of the Maps and firmware separately, but it's good to know it *may* not be necessary to do the firmware beforehand. I appreciate you getting back to me.

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[kenny_mom]

Absolutely, data through the AMI port and bluetooth for voice and music is best!
I was just saying you may want to plug your sim card into RNS850 just to check you've got everything working data wise prior the mod.
Btw, I would recommend asking for a data sim sharing the data with your phone and using a 4G dongle with the data sim as this way you will have fully independent data and phone

Vodafone gave me a data sim in the past for free, not sure how it is nowadays.
It is up to you, of course

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[darrenswift]

Disappointingly, I don't have the "install fair mode" in my green menu, and my media connection cable is in the glove box and not the centre armrest.
I've ordered the updated firmware, so hope that it will include the fair mode option. I'll then route a power feed into the glove box and see how it goes from there.
Mine is a May 2011 Touareg, so this option may only appear on newer models.

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[darrenswift]

Disappointingly, I don't have the "install fair mode" in my green menu, and my media connection cable is in the glove box and not the centre armrest.
I've ordered the updated firmware, so hope that it will include the fair mode option. I'll then route a power feed into the glove box and see how it goes from there.
Mine is a May 2011 Touareg, so this option may only appear on newer models.

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A quick update.
FW now updated and running 2019 maps so can now 'install fairmode'.
Still no Google Earth option though. Do any of you kind souls have any suggestion on what might be required to get the option visible?
Many thanks in advance,
Darren

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[kenny_mom]

A quick update.
FW now updated and running 2019 maps so can now 'install fairmode'.
Still no Google Earth option though. Do any of you kind souls have any suggestion on what might be required to get the option visible?
Many thanks in advance,
Darren

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I haven't done it myself as my treg is 2015 but it seems people have done it on 2011 ones. Have a search on enabling Google earth on RNS850.
Looks like you need the latest firmware (at least K0821) which you have done, plus probably a script to be run from an SD card to enable Google earth.
Here is a link I found in a 30 secs search which may help but there are probably others out there.
https://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=37673
Note that the same head unit is used on Audi as well and there are threads in forums re the same problem.
Probably other members of this forum have done it as well.
Good luck.

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[Clarkey]

Like otheeres on here I have upgraded to a phone that no longer supports RSAP ( a Note 9 in my case) so have purchased this kit & set it up today.
I am no network expert so just followed the instructions!

I seem to have google earth working just fine and the TP-Link connects to my phones hot spot every time.

However, like a couple of others I do not seem to get the on-line traffic green lines . I did the first time , but then not since?

I will try setting the DNS servers tomorrow , but any other pointers would be great so long as it is in non technical speak !!

 

[kenny_mom]

Like otheeres on here I have upgraded to a phone that no longer supports RSAP ( a Note 9 in my case) so have purchased this kit & set it up today.
I am no network expert so just followed the instructions!

I seem to have google earth working just fine and the TP-Link connects to my phones hot spot every time.

However, like a couple of others I do not seem to get the on-line traffic green lines . I did the first time , but then not since?

I will try setting the DNS servers tomorrow , but any other pointers would be great so long as it is in non technical speak !!

Are you sure your Google Earth is really working? If you had it before you may have the area cached making you think it is working. To see you've got data try finding a POI as a destination which uses Google Search.
Otherwise, just the DNS servers settings should do if everything else is as per the instructions.
I guess you had it all working with your old phone with RSAP?

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[Clarkey]

Are you sure your Google Earth is really working? If you had it before you may have the area cached making you think it is working. To see you've got data try finding a POI as a destination which uses Google Search.
Otherwise, just the DNS servers settings should do if everything else is as per the instructions.
I guess you had it all working with your old phone with RSAP?

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Yes was working on old phone, so good point re cache , will check it out ...thanks for tips.

 

[robsdesk]

Yes was working on old phone, so good point re cache , will check it out ...thanks for tips.

Quick way to prove it is to do an online destination search or check for CarNet traffic information.

 

[Clarkey]

Quick way to prove it is to do an online destination search or check for CarNet traffic information.

Well , have tried it and it wasn't working / connected !!

Have stareted again & set all the IP's up on the MR3020 & it now refuses to connect to my phone!!

So router is in bridge mode & I set the IP to the static 192.168.2.1 as suggested, plus the DNS settings & rebooted everything.

It says it is connected , phone says its not ... think I will go down the dongle & sime route

 

[kenny_mom]

Well , have tried it and it wasn't working / connected !!

Have stareted again & set all the IP's up on the MR3020 & it now refuses to connect to my phone!!

So router is in bridge mode & I set the IP to the static 192.168.2.1 as suggested, plus the DNS settings & rebooted everything.

It says it is connected , phone says its not ... think I will go down the dongle & sime route

I am not sure it should be in bridge mode. I remember putting the switch in middle position while sharing the data from my phone (before going to the sim route)

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[Clarkey]

Well after purchasing a dongle & getting a free 3 data sim, I have gone back to hot spot on my phone !!
Yes router needed to be in Wisp mode ( my bad), but also found out that there is bugger all 3 reception round my house

Seems to be connecting up pretty quick and working a treat on the couple of short trips I have done to date.
Searching works & also on-line traffic, so happy bunny here.
Thanks for the help and pointers chaps.

Always have the dongle in reserve if needed.

 

[kenny_mom]

Well after purchasing a dongle & getting a free 3 data sim, I have gone back to hot spot on my phone !!
Yes router needed to be in Wisp mode ( my bad), but also found out that there is bugger all 3 reception round my house

Seems to be connecting up pretty quick and working a treat on the couple of short trips I have done to date.
Searching works & also on-line traffic, so happy bunny here.
Thanks for the help and pointers chaps.

Always have the dongle in reserve if needed.

Happy it all worked out for you!

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[Artful]

Hi all, as you've seen from the other threads I've been using RSAP with good success in my 2015 MY Touareg for the online services with Android phones. While this works well, there are a few limitations:

• Limited phone support - no iPhone, Windows phone, not all androids etc..
• The modem in the Touareg is 3G only - 7.2Mbps from what I can tell, while the data aspect of this isn't a major concern in the car, the lack of 4G is an issue (I've recently moved from 3 to EE who support 4G calling on my handset, not having this available on the car has quite an impact on phone signal - there is 4G coverage in places that there isn't 3G on EE & this is only set to continue)
• Linked to the above, upgrading your handset is a pain to make sure it supports RSAP & with more frequencies coming which the RNS850 may not support it's only getting worse
• If you're on a call you can't move it to / from RSAP without dropping it as you can with BT handsfree

I stumbled across a few threads on some Audi forums specifically this one:

http://www.a5oc.com/...nstalled-5.html

the gist of it is the OS the Audi MMI / RNS 850 runs has support for a few USB ethernet adapters built in, so make a change in the green menu, get a couple of cheap bits of kit & you can use tethering on your phone to share it's internet connection over wifi, use a small bridge to connect to that wifi & present it via ethernet to the RNS 850...

This is the kit list I've bought:

USB to Ethernet adapter: https://www.amazon.c...duct/B00MYT481C (from what I can find out the RNS 850 supports these chipsets: AX88772 AX88772A AX88172) £6.99
TPLink MR3020 Portable wireless router: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322119579553 (or anything you can power in the car which can connect to a wireless network & bridge it to ethernet) £18 for a lightly used one, amazon has new for about £25
Audi MMI USB cable: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172258536031 (this is not an offical Audi / VW one, works fine for me) £4.39
Short ethernet cable, had one kicking about
Something to power the bridge with - I had a dual USB 12v adapter already, one port charges my phone, the other the TPLink, some posts on the Audi forum talk about using a USB hub, but this can be hit and miss with power consumption.

Not a huge bill.

In terms of setting it up, this was the process I used:

• Updated firmware on TPLink to latest
• The RNS 850 has a bug in the firmware apparently which assumes the gateway will be 192.168.2.1 (regardless of what it is told by DHCP from the router) so you need to set the TPLink to be on 192.168.2.1, it automatically updated the DHCP range appropriately. The Audi version has the same bug but expects the gateway to be 192.168.1.1 just to make life complicated
• Enabled hotspot on my phone, configured the TPLink to use it, then connected the USB adapter to my laptop & the TPLink & made sure the laptop could get on the internet using the new connection - it could
• I'd already got the green menu enabled, if you don't, you need to enable it. Go into it & scroll down to config
• View attachment 28426
• then Install fair mode
• View attachment 28434
• Plug the MMI USB cable in & connect the USB adapter / router / power
• View attachment 28418
• Reboot the RNS, make sure tethering is enabled on your phone, the TPlink should connect to it automatically
• As usual give things a couple of minutes to start, online POI / Google earth should come to life.

I don't think street view is working - but ran out of time to fiddle earlier ( 2 1/2 week old baby so limited time for this!) & I don't think I've ever used it so don't really care(!), online traffic updated etc...

Rather pleased with this setup, works reliably (rebooted the phone / TPLink etc.. while fiddling earlier in the week inside & it's good at re-connecting - it's a bit more future proof than the RSAP stuff - I've swapped the BT profile to the standard handsfree / audio one rather than the remote SIM. I'm using this: https://play.google.....Llama&hl=en_GB to make sure Wifi Hotspot is enabled on my phone when it detects being connected to the BT in the Touareg.

Right, have lunch to make & probably more nappies to change!

Cheers

Rob

Update to this, the tethering piece was a bit more miss than hit, so I've bought a ZTE MF823 dongle (which the TPLink supports) & a free 3 200mb / month Sim: https://www.three.co.uk/Free_SIM_MBB/Order works 100% reliably - really good & cost effective solution.

Rob, having recently bought my first Touareg I got a 3 1GB PAYG data only SIM and put it in the RNS850 thinking that would provide just an internet connection whilst still using my iPhone via BT but found that the phone wouldn't connect any more. Searching for help on the web I came across your solution and so have now joined this forum and hope you can clear up a couple of queries.

I bought a ZTE-MF823 off eBay but having got it suspect there are a few variants as I subsequently found that 3 sell a version of it. I plugged it into my Win10 laptop and installed the software & drivers and it worked straight away. In the settings I found that it has two operating modes, USB Dongle & Wifi, and it works in both modes on the Win10 laptop. Presumably in the Wifi mode it's only drawing power from the laptop with all the communication via Wifi. So my first question is, what mode do I set it in to use with the RNS850.

I've installed fair mode successfully via the green menu and plugged the MF823 (in dongle mode) into the RNS850 USB port and Google maps is working but I'm not sure that's via the MF823 or my iPhone via BT. Incidentally my RNS850 is on FW0824 which I believe to be the latest so I'm not sure if the RNS850 / iPhone connectivity via BT has changed since you did your modification.

So my second question is, do I need the Wifi router and the same connectivity as yours to get it to work and if that's the case does the MF823 have to be in USB dongle mode or Wifi mode ?

I would greatly appreciate your guidance on this as I'm not an electronics wizard (retired mechanical engineer).

Update: I've now ordered the TP-LINK TL-MR3020 V3 Router and associated connecting cables so will give it a try.

Thanks to Rob and everyone on this thread, all working now.

 

[bigbigblue]

Cass,
Could you not just insert the free data sim into the SIM slot in the RNS850?

 

[robsdesk]

If you don't want to use Bluetooth for calling yes, when you put a sim in the rns850 it disables BT calling.

 

[bigbigblue]

Thanks for the clarification. Is there any way to stop it disabling BT calling? VCDS?

 

[robsdesk]

Nope, that's the reason for using rsap / other methods for giving the RNS a data connection.

 

[FelterSkelter]

Since I bought my Touareg back in 2015 I've been bugged with the limitation that data-SIM cannot be used together with Bluetooth handsfree.

First I ditched my iPhone in favour of a Samsung S7 to get RSAP. When that broke, I bought a Samsung S9 just to find out RSAP wasn't supported on the dual-SIM models.
Currently I'm using a LG G7 phone which I hate, but it does have proper RSAP.

A couple of months ago I found this thread and recalled that I had a TPLink MR3020 lying around. Great!
Now I'll fix this once and for all. Purchased an MMI-cable and USB-ethernet adapter off Wish.com.

Today I had all the stuff I needed. I even bought a 4G USB-dongle to avoid the hassle of using the wifi hotspot in the LG G7.
Connected and verified everything on my computer.

I then enabled the green menu through my ODB-11-dongle and finally installed the "fair mode".

Final step! Just connect the stuff and be gone with it. Pondering which phone I should use, now that I won't be limited by RSAP-support.

Then I discovered this:

There's no media-connector in my armrest. Just a silly aux-outlet. Nor is there any connector to find the glove box either.

If I only had checked that first...

 

[kenny_mom]

Since I bought my Touareg back in 2015 I've been bugged with the limitation that data-SIM cannot be used together with Bluetooth handsfree.

First I ditched my iPhone in favour of a Samsung S7 to get RSAP. When that broke, I bought a Samsung S9 just to find out RSAP wasn't supported on the dual-SIM models.
Currently I'm using a LG G7 phone which I hate, but it does have proper RSAP.

A couple of months ago I found this thread and recalled that I had a TPLink MR3020 lying around. Great!
Now I'll fix this once and for all. Purchased an MMI-cable and USB-ethernet adapter off Wish.com.

Today I had all the stuff I needed. I even bought a 4G USB-dongle to avoid the hassle of using the wifi hotspot in the LG G7.
Connected and verified everything on my computer.

I then enabled the green menu through my ODB-11-dongle and finally installed the "fair mode".

Final step! Just connect the stuff and be gone with it. Pondering which phone I should use, now that I won't be limited by RSAP-support.

Then I discovered this:
View attachment 34120

There's no media-connector in my armrest. Just a silly aux-outlet. Nor is there any connector to find the glove box either.

If I only had checked that first...

Hi, this is very strange. Which year is you treg? 2015 or an earlier model? Is there anything beneath the cover?

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