[Loz]

smarty156, on 26 March 2014 - 07:20 AM, said:

It would be useful info if I actually understood it
Maybe someone like Chaser could put it in plain English?

Maybe I've just been unlucky and got a dodgy bearing. I note on another thread that someone else had a bad replacement bearing from Firow.

He did, I'll find it for you later.. but not completely correct as we don't have a vicious(sic) coupling..

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[chaser]

smarty156, on 26 March 2014 - 07:20 AM, said:

It would be useful info if I actually understood it
Maybe someone like Chaser could put it in plain English?

Maybe I've just been unlucky and got a dodgy bearing. I note on another thread that someone else had a bad replacement bearing from Firow.

Just read the viscous coupling comment.......so in plain english

Firstly there's no viscous coupling anywhere on a Touareg.

Secondly if you could hang off a 6ft bar from a viscous coupling without it moving it would be the wrong side of fecked!

So that's one little chat you can forget you had.

[smarty156]

What chat?

To be fair, I didn't really understand what he was saying and wrote that from memory afterwards. He probably said something different but sounded a bit like viscous coupling.

So,why do the tyres need to be the same tread depth given there are diffs that should take care of any wheel speed difference?

[Loz]

smarty156, on 26 March 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

What chat?

To be fair, I didn't really understand what he was saying and wrote that from memory afterwards. He probably said something different but sounded a bit like viscous coupling.

So,why do the tyres need to be the same tread depth given there are diffs that should take care of any wheel speed difference?

Chaser's last on this; http://www.mytreg.co...post__p__223330

[smarty156]

Thanks Loz.
Think I was on holiday when that was posted.

Well done Chaser. Even I can understand that explanation.

[NoobyT]

Perhaps it was a vicious coupling . . . !

[smarty156]

Car is at my local VW dealer today. New propshaft needed (presume due to centre bearing), Warranty Direct authorised total cost of £1,115.17, of which I'll need to pay £50xs.
Annoyed that the centre bearing I had done 2 years and 20,000 miles ago hasn't faired too well and needs sorting again. I only replaced it last time as a precaution due to mileage and age. Should have left it alone.
Hopefully this new one will last longer.
Car is an 07 reg with 87,000 miles on the clock. Glad I paid a bit extra to have the betterment clause removed on the warranty!

[NoobyT]

Glad you're sorted. Well done WD! [though they're still barstewards at times!!]

[amj62]

So my centre bearing went at 53,000 miles on my 09 T2 on Thursday and as I discovered here, this is going to set me back £1069 at Martins. What really riles me is their response "Because you can’t buy the bearing on its own from Volkswagen". Also given the frequency of this, I think this failure looks to be a latent defect. I get a bee in my bonnet when these things happen so have written a complaint to the Chairman of the Board of VW AG and copied the MD of VW UK and the CEO of Martins Group. Don't really expect much to happen, but you ever know. I also wonder if raising a case with Trading Standards would be worthwhile given that they're forcing you to replace a serviceable part for no good reason.

Rant aside, I'm a little to far away to get to the repairers recommended on the forum, but I did find a company who does the same repair to the Porsche Cayenne - (http://www.lakesideengineering.com/) who says he can do mine for about £300. Also discovered a local supplier of the Vertex bearing support - http://www.design911...57-most-models/ but this is pretty much the same price as the US version.

Finally I was wondering if anyone had put together a list of items which should be repaired/serviced/replaced before they fail. I always assumed that that this would form part of the manufacturers service regimen, but I'm beginning to doubt that now.

[NoobyT]

I wish you better luck than me with VW hierarchy! Just not interested.

Take no notice of anything "sealed for life".

VW's "life" is 70K/7 years so at the very least change the front and rear diff and the transfer case oils as well as the gearbox ATF at that point if not at 60K.

[amj62]

NoobyT, on 05 April 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

I wish you better luck than me with VW hierarchy! Just not interested.

Take no notice of anything "sealed for life".

VW's "life" is 70K/7 years so at the very least change the front and rear diff and the transfer case oils as well as the gearbox ATF at that point if not at 60K.

My expectation is very low so I shouldn't be disappointed!

[Cass]

All you have to do is get your propshaft off and shipped to a repairer, who will replace the bearing carrier, rebalance it and ship it back, so you can get it refitted - all for less than 1/4 of the price of a replacement propshaft - no brainer really and you could probably do this over a 3 - day period max

[amj62]

Cass, on 05 April 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

All you have to do is get your propshaft off and shipped to a repairer, who will replace the bearing carrier, rebalance it and ship it back, so you can get it refitted - all for less than 1/4 of the price of a replacement propshaft - no brainer really and you could probably do this over a 3 - day period max

Probably could, but don't have ramps, nor all of the tools

[Cass]

amj62, on 05 April 2014 - 05:50 PM, said:

Probably could, but don't have ramps, nor all of the tools

Any half decent garage could do it for 2-3 hrs labour, max, plus £80 for the replacement bearing

[amj62]

NoobyT, on 05 April 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

VW's "life" is 70K/7 years so at the very least change the front and rear diff and the transfer case oils as well as the gearbox ATF at that point if not at 60K.

Would this be done by a dealer at any stage? I don't see it listed in the service book

[Cass]

amj62, on 06 April 2014 - 07:22 AM, said:

Would this be done by a dealer at any stage? I don't see it listed in the service book

No, some dealers don't even acknowledge it as a (design) fault and will simply change the whole propshaft for about £1100, happily relieving you of that sum.

[amj62]

Cass, on 06 April 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

No, some dealers don't even acknowledge it as a (design) fault and will simply change the whole propshaft for about £1100, happily relieving you of that sum.

I was referring to the drive train fluids as per Nooby's post

[NoobyT]

Do not bother with a dealer. Find a good VW independent who will do the job properly for you without telling you "They're sealed for life" and for a lot less money.

Do get the transfer case oil from the dealer - it comes in the correct size 850ml bottle ready to go. It's Mobil 75/90 for the diffs.

[Cass]

amj62, on 06 April 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

I was referring to the drive train fluids as per Nooby's post

My fault - was only reading part of the post on my phone !

[amj62]

Got a quote from an independent - £660 to replace the bearing (supplied by me), all drive train oils and gearbox filter (VW OEM) - Does that sound reasonable?