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#1 User is offline   DevonTregs 

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Posted 24 August 2020 - 01:36 PM

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I've owned a 2007 Facelift V6 Altitude for the last 5 years .Fabulous truck, fully loaded with all the toys and the air suspension, that I loved. I've recently let it go ( +135,000 miles ) and have just bought a 2017 R line+ ( 28,000 miles ) . Its a fabulous looking beast, but I was horrified by the ride quality with the 21" mallory wheels and Dunlop tyres. My test drive only went on dual carriageway ( I know, my fault ), but when I came back to the potholes of Dartmoor, I feel the ride quality really harsh. In fact after one day I was ready to throw in the towel and buy another Discovery 4.....but maybe thats a bit hasty.

So my query is, would it make a significant difference to the ride quality to go down to 19" rims, or even 18" ? I guess I was spoilt with the air suspension on the previous truck. Before I pull the trigger on line to get new rims and tyres, I was wondering whether anyone out there could give me a recommendation for the best balance of ride comfort for multi-purpose driving on not such good roads. Finally, I have no intention of going off-road and I'm not looking for high performance on the motorway...so nothing extreme is necessary.

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Posted 25 August 2020 - 12:14 PM

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Posted 25 August 2020 - 12:31 PM

I have a 2013 T3 R-Line with air susp on 20” alloys and the ride is excellent. Before that I briefly had a T3 Altitude with standard springs on 20” and before that a standard T2 Altitude on 19”.

The ride on both Tregs with standard susp was very good but as you say, you get spoiled with air susp.

You need to try different vehicles to see what is acceptable to you. 20” might be OK for you so try to test drive a Treg with standard susp on those. If you bought from a VW dealer, I’m sure they sure they would allow you to swop the car under the Das WeltAuto used car scheme if you are within 30 days of the purchase date - they may have a similar car in stock but the R-Line Plus has 21” as standard.

Maybe the dealer would be willing to swop over your 21” for a set of 20” from another Treg, but a keen buyer would spot that the R-Line Plus came with has 21” and that might affect the cars value down the line, moreso if you go to 19” or even 18” wheels.

21” tyres are expensive and whilst the size of the wheels might look good, it’s the shallow tyre profile that gives makes the ride harsh. You could of course always buy a new set if alloys/tyres and sell the existing 21”.

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Posted 25 August 2020 - 12:57 PM

Keep the 21 inch wheels (dry them carefully, destone the tyres, and then store then in a dry dark corner of the garage).

Buy a set of 18 inch wheels and fit Michelin Cross Climate tyres if possible which will give a you a better ride and safety in Devon moorland winters.
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Posted 08 September 2020 - 09:42 AM

Cass and Nooby T - many thanks for your advice. I bought privately, so going back to VW isn't an option. I have in fact taken Nooby T's advice and ordered a set of 18" Aspens and will be fitting Michelin Cross climates later in the week. I'm really looking forward to seeing the difference. I appreciate that the car wont look quite as bling, but to be honest the Dartmoor roads have roughed up the 21" rims a fair bit already, without any off-road / aggressive driving. They are just not fit for purpose where i live. Next ( and hopefully final ) quest should be an upgrade of the dreadful radio / stereo. Enjoying the car otherwise.....
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Posted 14 September 2020 - 01:52 PM

Just a quick update....... New rims and tyres fitted. What a difference. Steering feels lighter. Braking is more responsive. Ride a little more floaty and comfortable. I don't have to wince every time i go over a ripple in the road. It's not a patch mind on the ride quality of my 2007 Altitude with Air - i find it hard to understand that ' i have regressed', but the engine and gear box are much smoother.....so i guess an overall improvement. I was worried it would look a little ungainly, but to be honest i think it improves the aesthetic ( says an architect :) ) Now looks a little more masculine and worthy of the SUV handle. In my opinion the 21" Mallory rims are a little ridiculous for a vehicle that boasts a standard off-road setting. Anyway, thanks again chaps for the knowledge.
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Posted 14 September 2020 - 08:07 PM

That’s a great result and If you are pleased with it all the better . Mine has 20 inch combo and tbh the ride quality in some instances is terrible, spine jarring through the whole vehicle if you hit something like a long rut across the road or a bad pothole.On motorway and A roads it’s perfectly fine but still annoying when you hit an imperfection and feel as though You are on hoover belts.
The big wheels look fantastic but are maybe too big for some situations, 18s with a decent profile will not be too far off the same dimensions and as you have said will restore some of the suv purpose. You might even be able to bump up a pavement 👌👌👌
It’s defo something I will be considering .
What is the problem with the stereo?

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Posted 14 September 2020 - 10:16 PM

To be fair, the Touareg is an SUV designed for road use and we all had an opportunity to view the specs and test drive before buying, but Iagree that 21” is a step too far :mellow:
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Posted 15 September 2020 - 09:30 AM

Exactly, I suppose if one had winter wheels and tyres you wpuld then be able to make a comparison for yourself.

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Posted 15 September 2020 - 11:17 AM

View PostJaycee531, on 15 September 2020 - 09:30 AM, said:

Exactly, I suppose if one had winter wheels and tyres you wpuld then be able to make a comparison for yourself.

There's certainly a difference in ride quality between my 17" winters and 19" summers, even with air suspension - and a long-term courtesy Touareg on 20" onh steel springs was much harsher again, horrible in fact.
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