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Posted 18 February 2015 - 05:41 PM

Eventually Ive found a unit that fits my requirements:-

Good Nav
Good Sound
Ipod Interface - With easy navigation
Hard Disc Interface - with simple navigation
Handsfree - With phonebook
Good Radio
Steering Wheel Controls

The above unit does all of this and so much more. It will happily work with Android and has the ability to mimic phone screens in the display. It has DAB radio, 2 USB ports, SD Memory Slot and DVD Drive. The sound is absolutely amazing even on standard speakers. It fits in nicely to the dash though the standard facia adapter plates need to be cut down. I still have a little more fettling to do to make it perfect.

Apologies for the poor quality of the photos, its getting dusk and the iphone doesn't perform too well in low light. The motorised screen is also tilted back in the photographs to try and get a better view, it normally sits flat.

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The NAV screen is great, very informative, easy to use. Full 6 digit post codes and loads of peripheral information eg supermarkets, fuel, garages etc.

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The TMC looks at hold ups and other traffic events on your route and in your local area, it offers alterntive routes if theyre going to be quicker.
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 06:06 PM

Looks V nice.

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Did you need an adapter for the steering wheel controls and what functionality do you get?

Does the unit switch illumination with lights on/off?

Did you need another antenna for the DAB?

(Well that's 3 Qs then...)
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 06:56 PM

View PostGeraout, on 18 February 2015 - 06:06 PM, said:

Looks V nice.

A couple of Qs.



Did you need an adapter for the steering wheel controls and what functionality do you get?

Does the unit switch illumination with lights on/off?

Did you need another antenna for the DAB?

(Well that's 3 Qs then...)

I did get an adapter for the steering wheel controls, it also gives the speed, reverse, illumination signals. It was a very straight forward plug and play. The volume up and down are the only controls though. That said everything else is so easy it's not an issue.

The switch illumination is configurable, choose your colour, brightness etc.

I installed a glass mounted antenna behind the rear view mirror right up at the roof lining. The antenna wire runs down tucked in behind the passenger side 'A' pillar airbag and then across and into the dashboard easily accessed via the nearside fusebox. Works a treat, good reception etc and it's out of sight.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 09:38 AM

That looks really good. I have a 2005 T1 and still have the original radio/cd plus my Parrot MKi9200. When I got the Treg I looked round at replacement units but never settled on anything. Plus, the Parrot kit was sitting in the garage and just cost £60 to be fitted.

I have a large screen TomTom that sits on a mount slotted into the CD and I like the system. Easily removed and stuffed into the drawer under the driver's seat.

All OK but I don't like having the extra head units and trailing wires.

Still hanker after a replacement like yours so could I ask about the sat nav? What put me off the ones I looked at was that there was no way to update them. The TomTom updates roads/cameras etc. every couple of days. My previous car had a CD-based sat nav and was really good but I never wanted to blow £100 every year or so for new discs. How does the Pioneer cope with this?

Depending on your answer, of course, you may cost me a lot of money but thanks for this post!

View Postjohnb80, on 18 February 2015 - 05:41 PM, said:

Eventually Ive found a unit that fits my requirements:-

Good Nav
Good Sound
Ipod Interface - With easy navigation
Hard Disc Interface - with simple navigation
Handsfree - With phonebook
Good Radio
Steering Wheel Controls

The above unit does all of this and so much more. It will happily work with Android and has the ability to mimic phone screens in the display. It has DAB radio, 2 USB ports, SD Memory Slot and DVD Drive. The sound is absolutely amazing even on standard speakers. It fits in nicely to the dash though the standard facia adapter plates need to be cut down. I still have a little more fettling to do to make it perfect.

Apologies for the poor quality of the photos, its getting dusk and the iphone doesn't perform too well in low light. The motorised screen is also tilted back in the photographs to try and get a better view, it normally sits flat.

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The NAV screen is great, very informative, easy to use. Full 6 digit post codes and loads of peripheral information eg supermarkets, fuel, garages etc.

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The TMC looks at hold ups and other traffic events on your route and in your local area, it offers alterntive routes if theyre going to be quicker.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:27 PM

View PostPeter Fox, on 19 February 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

That looks really good. I have a 2005 T1 and still have the original radio/cd plus my Parrot MKi9200. When I got the Treg I looked round at replacement units but never settled on anything. Plus, the Parrot kit was sitting in the garage and just cost £60 to be fitted.

I have a large screen TomTom that sits on a mount slotted into the CD and I like the system. Easily removed and stuffed into the drawer under the driver's seat.

All OK but I don't like having the extra head units and trailing wires.

Still hanker after a replacement like yours so could I ask about the sat nav? What put me off the ones I looked at was that there was no way to update them. The TomTom updates roads/cameras etc. every couple of days. My previous car had a CD-based sat nav and was really good but I never wanted to blow £100 every year or so for new discs. How does the Pioneer cope with this?

Depending on your answer, of course, you may cost me a lot of money but thanks for this post!

Lifetime map updates free. Plug a USB memory stick into one of the ports, press synctool in the settings, that loads some files onto the memory stick. Now go onto an internet connected PC, install the software, it connects to the Pioneer site and offers you loads of things you haven't got, Photographs of POI's, speed cameras, maps and a whole host more. Mine upgraded the maps etc for the whole of Europe. Now back out to car, plug the stick back in and it all updates beautifully.

Time to melt the creditcard hehe
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If youre old fashioned and still burning fossil fuels, MORRISONS fuel which is the best choice for all Touaregs.
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Posted 20 February 2015 - 07:47 AM

View Postjohnb80, on 19 February 2015 - 10:27 PM, said:

Lifetime map updates free. Plug a USB memory stick into one of the ports, press synctool in the settings, that loads some files onto the memory stick. Now go onto an internet connected PC, install the software, it connects to the Pioneer site and offers you loads of things you haven't got, Photographs of POI's, speed cameras, maps and a whole host more. Mine upgraded the maps etc for the whole of Europe. Now back out to car, plug the stick back in and it all updates beautifully.

Time to melt the creditcard hehe


Thanks, John, that's really helpful. After I read your post I was looking at the spec online and some of the reviews talked about expensive map updates and no speed cameras. From what you say, Pioneer have delivered the full package now.

I quite fancy a rear camera too so this would be ideal. There's a specialist fitter north of Sheffield who I got a lot of helpful info from last year. May be time for a trip back there!

Many thanks again for this.
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Posted 20 February 2015 - 07:53 AM

John, did you also have to plumb in a new gps aerial and microphone? Also, do you still get the on board computer features on the dash display, fuel economy etc controlled from the steering wheel?
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Posted 21 February 2015 - 04:18 PM

Everything on the dashboard display works as before except radio and Mac related displays which don't appear. All of the fuel computers etc display as before. The steering wheel controls work volume up and down on the radio only.
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Posted 16 April 2015 - 09:44 PM

Was good to read of your positive interaction with the F60 dab. Have decided to treat myself with the F960 dab. Always loved pioneer,

Did you buy a fitting kit or did it fit out of the box?
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Posted 17 April 2015 - 03:51 AM

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Was good to read of your positive interaction with the F60 dab. Have decided to treat myself with the F960 dab. Always loved pioneer,

Did you buy a fitting kit or did it fit out of the box?

I got a fitting kit BUT you have to mod the facia plate (cut away top and bottom), you may be OK with the 960 though it's smaller than the F60. Its well worth it and its a great unit, no problems so far.
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Posted 17 April 2015 - 10:26 PM

960 is discontinued but still available at some places.
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Posted 18 April 2015 - 05:01 AM

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960 is discontinued but still available at some places.

I looked at the 960 but I thought the F60 was worth the extra money and I don't regret it at all, it's superb in every way.
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Posted 19 April 2015 - 10:02 PM

I like the F60 as well but it was £200 more

I ended up ringing the audio place i was buying from and they told me all the correct cables to order etc.

looks like it should be a fairly quick swap over

how long has it taken others to swap headunits over?
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Posted 20 April 2015 - 03:49 AM

It took me about 2 hrs, most of the time was running the cables for the microphone and gps antenna. The actual head unit about 5 minutes. Make sure you have removal keys for the old unit, then it's a doddle.
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Posted 20 April 2015 - 09:16 PM

Thanks John.

where did you end up running the GPS antenna to. I was planning on running the mic under the dash, then up the passenger B pillar and then mount near the rear view mirror.
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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:00 PM

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Thanks John.

where did you end up running the GPS antenna to. I was planning on running the mic under the dash, then up the passenger B pillar and then mount near the rear view mirror.

Microphone as you suggest and the GPS antenna flat on the dash at the left hand side at the bottom of the screen. The wire tucks in nicely and can drop down into the access panel for the fuse box.
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Posted 21 April 2015 - 10:07 PM

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Microphone as you suggest and the GPS antenna flat on the dash at the left hand side at the bottom of the screen. The wire tucks in nicely and can drop down into the access panel for the fuse box.


On the T2, there was a phone mic already pre-wired in the overhead lighting unit, so you just needed to run a cable up the A pillar and then under and across the headlining. I'd suspect something similar with the T3 :huh:

Link here to a previous install I did on my T2 - I went for locating the mic on the drivers side A pillar for better reception:

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 08:23 PM

Cass thanks for the info, but don't think the T1 has it.

On a separate note was going through the box and just realised I don't have a DAB aerial. Who sells a DAB radio, and not supply a suitable antenna for it. So been doing some research and the consensus seems to be windscreen mounted is not great for strong reception. Lots of mixed reviews.

How are others finding the reception on DAB with a windscreen mount.

Also they seem to need farthing out on the a pillar. I'm guessing you can get behind the airbag on the a pillar to earth it out?

My other plan if I don't get the windscreen mount AN DAB001 from pioneer. Is to get an external glass mounted one and pop it in the rear quarter on the passenger side. Not as stealthy, but a lot stronger reception apparently.
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Posted 24 April 2015 - 09:44 PM

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Cass thanks for the info, but don't think the T1 has it.

On a separate note was going through the box and just realised I don't have a DAB aerial. Who sells a DAB radio, and not supply a suitable antenna for it. So been doing some research and the consensus seems to be windscreen mounted is not great for strong reception. Lots of mixed reviews.

How are others finding the reception on DAB with a windscreen mount.

Also they seem to need farthing out on the a pillar. I'm guessing you can get behind the airbag on the a pillar to earth it out?

My other plan if I don't get the windscreen mount AN DAB001 from pioneer. Is to get an external glass mounted one and pop it in the rear quarter on the passenger side. Not as stealthy, but a lot stronger reception apparently.


Nearly all of them sell the radio sans aerial, on my ML I had replaced the Benz radio with a Pioneer head unit, it was also a DAB radio with no aerial, I bought one I think at Halfords, but ir worked on the Pioneer NP. I stuck my aerial on the right top of the screen on the right hand side, as it was transparent except for the wires, it didn't affect the MOT. I routed the aerial down the right hand side pillar trim, through the top of the dash (take out the instrument cluster lots of room at the back) and down and into the radio.

I live in so called Gods country, and the big guy doesn't like the newfangled digital ways, so reception was lets say patchy. But when it worked it was quite good. Although the reception on FM was for some reason louder???? go figure. ;)

Oh and as a thought, the Treg comes standard with GPS, so why not use the vehicles own GPS receiver? or is it non functional with other kit. If so I would opt for a shark fin receiver on the roof.
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Posted 25 April 2015 - 01:03 PM

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Thanks John.

where did you end up running the GPS antenna to. I was planning on running the mic under the dash, then up the passenger B pillar and then mount near the rear view mirror.


I have my Pioneer mic run up the drivers side A pillar and mounted in the top right of the windscreen. Very handy to do and points straight at you plus is shielded from outside noise if the side window is down.

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