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Posted 15 April 2013 - 10:42 AM

So after just 30k miles the Alternator gear and the coupling failed, unexpected because VW stated the coupling and the gear should be changed at 60K-70K miles. Ordered them today, 85euros both.
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:35 AM

Is that on all models?
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:41 AM

is it an easy DIY fix or is it dealer only on the R5

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:46 AM

Just found this on the net

http://cdn.media.osc...0ea_verb_en.pdf
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 12:02 PM

View PostK-TREG-V10, on 15 April 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Just found this on the net

http://cdn.media.osc...0ea_verb_en.pdf


Seems an important point to note that the alternator should not be removed from its mounting bracket or basic alignment will be lost :blink:
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 12:09 PM

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 12:11 PM

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This is dependent on whether the vehicle has a diesel particle filter. The replacement interval is 93,750 miles for vehicles without a diesel particle filter and 112,500 miles for vehicles with a diesel particle filter.


How on earth can a DPF in the exhaust possibly affect the replacement interval of an alternator? Someone's having a laugh surely? :rolleyes:
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 01:10 PM

View PostGimlet, on 15 April 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

How on earth can a DPF in the exhaust possibly affect the replacement interval of an alternator? Someone's having a laugh surely? :rolleyes:


Extra backpressure slows the combustion pulses making the coupling last longer.

That's the only obvious reason I can think of.



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Posted 15 April 2013 - 01:14 PM

View PostGimlet, on 15 April 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

How on earth can a DPF in the exhaust possibly affect the replacement interval of an alternator? Someone's having a laugh surely? :rolleyes:


93,750 miles with DPF versus versus 112,500 without [and no apparent time limit the rubber? and/or synthetic? coupling either] does seem odd.

Yet another reason for a good remap and DPF delete!!
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 01:15 PM

View Post4ePikanini, on 15 April 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Extra backpressure slows the combustion pulses making the coupling last longer.




I usually try and remember the various engine sizes on the original Minis and the years they were introduced . . . . . . .
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:52 PM

Yes, the f****** rubber coupling.. Just 30K miles.. Actually its the gear that fails, and rips of the coupling.. Interesting design for VW to get money.. At least I am not buying it from them now, found aftermarket parts.. a lot cheaper.. Because I am far from home, and the shop hasen't got the bearing, just the gear, I am going to take the AC compressor gear and coupling and put it on alternator, just to get home.. And when the coupling arrives in the shop I'll put it on AC..


Oh and you get a whistling noise when reving, thats the sign of a duying gear and ripped coupling..
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:50 PM

I'm wondering about mine now I will look out for the sound.
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:54 PM

The sound starts 5-7 miles before the failure.. Not before that.. Can't inspect it, change it.. Just to be sure..
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 10:24 PM

How many hours labour is it? Might do it with ny service
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:14 PM

I changed the AC compressor coupling and gear in about three hours.. A good mechanic will do it in one.. Both, one and a half..
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 05:56 AM

Is there a way to see its condition? Or we just have to wait for the noise? Not sure if this is as common ad the prop shaft issue in tregs ?
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 07:38 AM

If I owned a car with these couplings, then I would treat it like the centre bearing on the prop shaft - a simple maintenance item at, say 60K/5 years for the shaft and, say, 90K/6 years for the couplings.

Sounds like a £300 bill with the parts, labour and VAT at an independent.
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:54 AM

I was about to replace them on 50K miles, but it didn't last that long.. A mechanic here quoted me 30E for labor, thats in total 110E..
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:57 AM

is the parts available only from Dealer? is it termed "the alternator coupling" or something else?

did a quick search is this what we all talking about?

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item5d3890e8d4
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 10:05 AM

Another engine out job on the V10s I take it?
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