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#1 User is offline   The Canteen 

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:12 PM

Hiya,

When stationary AND on full lock (left and right) - like when putting on full lock to get into/out of a parking space, i'm getting JUDDER through the steering wheel, not really any sound or noise, just the judder feeling. I've tried it at slow speeds in a car park and it's fine. It's just stationary as you turn the steering wheel. Any ideas?

*I've read the stepper motor threads and looked for similar issues.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:59 PM

 The Canteen, on 19 June 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

Hiya,

When stationary AND on full lock (left and right) - like when putting on full lock to get into/out of a parking space, i'm getting JUDDER through the steering wheel, not really any sound or noise, just the judder feeling. I've tried it at slow speeds in a car park and it's fine. It's just stationary as you turn the steering wheel. Any ideas?

*I've read the stepper motor threads and looked for similar issues.

Thank you


Sounds like you are just straining the power steering to me...
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 05:18 PM

Is it the combination of wide tyres and ackerman steering geometry?
On some cars this causes little skips as the tyre grips and lets go.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:10 PM

Never hold any car with power steering on full lock.

Are all four tyres identical as in same size, same make, same model, same tread pattern and same depth to within 2mm?
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:42 PM

 NoobyT, on 19 June 2017 - 06:10 PM, said:

Never hold any car with power steering on full lock.

Are all four tyres identical as in same size, same make, same model, same tread pattern and same depth to within 2mm?

Would tyre state matter? He said when stationary?
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:46 PM

Good point! But I would still like to know! !
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 02:34 PM

Hiya all,

Sorry for the late reply - all tyres are the same make/size and with very similar tread and within limit.

It's hard to describe what i mean ... I don't have a drive at this house, so have to drive/reverse into a space outside the house. As i'm getting in and out of the space i have to turn the steering wheel whilst the car is Stationary to do the manoeuvre. Thats when I feel the judder, I suppose sometimes it's worse than others ....

.... BUT!!!!!! Just this very morning I started the car (it's not moved since Sunday) and the ABS light came on (my first thought was it was a sneaky VW trick, as my service is due TODAY believe it or not) so I turned off the car and on again a couple of times to see if it was a freak, but no ... ABS light still on and once I started driving the ESP light came on (i've tried turned on ans off a few times since, but no change) .... the car really does feel awful to drive now, and it's really slow and sluggish at changing up a gear.

Could this have been the start of the judder?

Any thoughts or info on the ABS?

(i've not yet searched the forum for ABS posts .. sorry)

Any help would be great. Thank you

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:13 PM

Have the car scanned with VCDS ;)
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Posted 23 June 2017 - 07:41 AM

View PostCass, on 21 June 2017 - 11:13 PM, said:

Have the car scanned with VCDS ;)


First of all this.

My car displayed similar symptoms re the ABS, Traction Control and sluggish driving. Turned out to be a duff ABS sensor and corroded sensor ring on the rear wheel so car kept applying the brakes thinking the wheel was spinning or locking up. Especially annoying when trying to reverse out of your driveway! Turning the car off and on again reset it for may a mile or two so was able to limp it to my mechanic in short hops.

Re the power streering, check the fluid level in the resevoir for the power steering. Many moons ago I had a Sierra that shuddered on full lock and a groaning sound was emitted. Turned out to be low power steering fluid and once topped up solved the judder and noise. I never investigated further but I had to top up the fluid once every 6 months or so, so it could have been a leak in the rack or something


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 08:18 AM

If you need to top up the power steering (or the coolant or brake fluid) on the Touareg use the correct VW fluid.
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