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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:10 PM

Has anybody had any experience of the HP chassis and if so how does it affect the ride?

I have noticed that some recent Tregs come with it and some dont, funnily enough, the ones that do all seem to have Xenons, which probably means its part of the upgrade.

Just curious as I might take the plunge on a newer car

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:44 PM

Do you mean the CDC? Or not. Is this something I don't know about?
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:50 PM

I did a google for this a while back and it seemed to come up with one in the same #%?
I think a glossary sticky would be good.
For those who are not sure what CDC is
it stands for continuous damping control ( air sus)
I wasn't ;-)
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 06:37 PM

I dont think this is air suspension as the cars concerned have no mention of it and there is no settings button in the centre console (just the usual diff lock button)

Confused

here is an example of what I mean (one of many)


http://www.autotrade.../true&logcode=p
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 07:48 PM

yes.
I have seen these on ads and i think you are right but searches bring nothing.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 09:23 PM

I have never seen anything other than regular suspension (steel springs) or air suspension in any VW literature 2003 to date.

The hydro-pneumatic suspension was a term used mostly by Citroen for the DS and other later cars;it used hydraulic fluid at 3000psi and nitrogen-filled spheres with a diaphragm. VW has never used this on Treg.

You are right that the interior pic on your Autotrader example doesn't have the air suspension control. Therefore it has steel springs and the advertiser is trying to be smart, but actually being a plonker.

Got the control - air. No control - steel. Simple as that
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 10:09 PM

Thing is, this is not the only dealer stating this, there are lots of them, there are also lots that dont list it.

Without wishing to sound stupid though, if it was incorrectly referring to air suspension it would just say pneumatic rather than hydro pneumatic, ie air & water - still confused!
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 10:48 PM

I think this must be a new peice of technology.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 01:41 AM

shipscat said:

Thing is, this is not the only dealer stating this, there are lots of them, there are also lots that dont list it.

Without wishing to sound stupid though, if it was incorrectly referring to air suspension it would just say pneumatic rather than hydro pneumatic, ie air & water - still confused!


I don't think you are confused but I think the dealer's ad is confusing. Why don't you call the dealer, there's an 0845 number in your sample ad. and ask them. My guess is that it is another example of how little the average VW salesman knows about our Tregs.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 11:25 PM

I have to agree with our Colonial Ambassador. As His Excellency says, some of the Autotrader ads demonstrate a shocking ignorance even on the part of VW Dealers. This one, for example, says "Headlight Wash" and it's quite clear in the pictures that there ain't no such thing on the car.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 10:13 AM

I know it's Painful Ship, but find the cars you like by using allapprovedcars.com or autotrader.... Then check out the interior pics, and look for a dial in the opposite position to the diff lock... (all approved cars has nice high res full screen pics)

Painful I know... But it's often that people do not know what they have and won't list air, even the dealers, in fact they are the worst - my local couldn't tell me how the mirrors folded in.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 11:42 AM

That's good info .
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 12:44 PM

This is from a left hooker, so imagine a mirror image, but you get the idea - notice the different ESP button, ride hight 'wheel' and extra knob :) to play with compared to non CDC equipped cars.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 12:50 PM

Just found this too, showing the difference in ride height, not seen it this way before.

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"Touaregs with the air suspension have adjustable ride height, shock valving and drivetrain settings; all can be manually operated by easily read and operated dials, and graphics in the gauge cluster monitor the selections. The range of ride heights includes a loading level of 6.3 in.; a stage 1 high-speed setting, up to 78 mph, of 7.5 in.; a stage 2 high-speed setting of 7.1 in., up to 112 mph; a standard, street-use setting of 8.5 in.; and two off-road levels: 9. in. of clearance up to 44 mph and 11.8 in. at the highest setting, which can be used up to 12 mph. The sophisticated underpinnings allow side-hill angles of up to 45 degrees to be handled safely. Combined with short front and rear overhangs, the Touareg offers competitive approach and depart angles and climbing ability. It's a genuine off-roader.

the standard suspension Touareg can ford depths up to 19.6 in. and the air-suspended vehicles can handle water up to 22.8-in. deep.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 03:36 PM

That's a really good image to compare with.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 10:16 AM

Hipflyguy said:

This is from a left hooker, so imagine a mirror image, but you get the idea - notice the different ESP button, ride hight 'wheel' and extra knob :) to play with compared to non CDC equipped cars.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 01:32 PM

Hi, My old Treg had air ( CDC ) , but im awaiting a 09 Altitude and it states it has the Hyro pneaumatic chassis????? Ill phone the dealer tomorrow and find out exactly what it is, oh and my new treg doe's not have Xenon!! But i will be fitting HID
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